tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11976534.post1051953663196331948..comments2023-10-23T14:02:52.339-06:00Comments on Dominican Idaho: Christopher West's Theology of the BodyMarkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02261197566240560777noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11976534.post-44430067794414938812009-11-22T16:42:09.179-07:002009-11-22T16:42:09.179-07:00is [] part of his papal magisterium because he tau...<i>is [] part of his papal magisterium because he taught it publicly while he was pope and as the pope, especially Wednesday catechesis</i><br /><br />I'm glad you said that and perhaps together we can find a clarification. I would disagree, and pose that <br /><br /><i>is not [] part of his papal magisterium because although he taught it publicly while he was pope, he taught it as the Bishop of Rome, especially at his wednesday catechesis</i><br /><br />I have been told and have operated under the assumption that the "Wednesday Catechesis" is as bishop of Rome, rather than a teaching directed at the entire church (such as an apostolic exhortation, consitution, encyclical, or the like) which are the official magisterial acts of the Pope directed to the entire Church.<br /><br />in other words, as a vehicle for introducing a novel interpretation and extension of the deposit of the faith in regard to marriage, it fails to pass muster (regardless of the eminance of the Bishop of Rome) and remains at the level of 'theological speculation'.<br /><br />If I have missunderstood this, I'd be delighted to see a clarification which would make it clear.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02261197566240560777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11976534.post-20433917029256834152009-11-21T17:55:41.588-07:002009-11-21T17:55:41.588-07:00Pope John Paul II's theology of the body is ce...Pope John Paul II's theology of the body is certainly part of his papal magisterium because he taught it publicly while he was pope and as the pope, especially Wednesday catechesis. By virtue of that, it is teaching that would certainly earn both an imprimatur and a nihil obstat. Is it something that is beyond question? No! After all, it is not infallible teaching.Dcn Scott Dodgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09994604395739905637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11976534.post-38290334946248178172009-11-16T12:59:11.007-07:002009-11-16T12:59:11.007-07:00Dear Deacon Scott,
The "Wednesday Catechesis...Dear Deacon Scott,<br /><br />The "Wednesday Catechesis" at which these presentations were made, are in turn based on the book. In any case, they categorically do not reflect papal teaching (as John Paul II himself stated), but the private opinions of the Bishop of Rome, and in that context carry the same magisterial authority as any theoretical teaching by any other bishop.<br /><br />My problem, to repeat with I hope a bit more clarity, is that "theology of the body" is categorically a body of speculative thought, not the magisterial teaching of John Paul II (which it is represented as).<br /><br />I am not saying that I disagree with it, only that I have difficulty with what on the face of it is a missrepresentation.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02261197566240560777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11976534.post-80337858339628625802009-11-14T15:25:44.950-07:002009-11-14T15:25:44.950-07:00The Theology of the Body on which West relies is n...The <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Man-Woman-He-Created-Them/dp/0819874213/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1258236887&sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">Theology of the Body</a> on which West relies is not <i>Love and Responsibility</i>, but 129 separate Wednesday catecheses, given by Pope John Paul II in St. Peter's Square, over several years beginning 1979. These were published in book form not long after they were concluded. Since his death, in the Vatican archives, a number of presentations, which were not given publicly, due to the very sexual nature of the subject-matter were discovered. West has sought to incorporate these into his teaching.<br /><br />We should all appreciate Schindler's attempt to dialogue with West and to correct him on certain matters. However, I find Schindler's approach rather high-handed and lacking charity. After all, West is trying to bring matters that are usually dealt with at a high academic level, where Schindler lives, moves, and has being, to ordinary Catholics, with the intent to help us live what the Church teaches. It seems to me that West has been very receptive and open to correction.<br /><br />Given the reluctance of most bishops, priests, and deacons to address matters of chastity and marital sexuality forthrightly, we should all be grateful to West for trying to bridge the gap between the truth taught by the Church and our everyday lives.Dcn Scott Dodgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09994604395739905637noreply@blogger.com